in the bulk garbage. If you speak german this is a good site for little projects with the 4093: www.strippenstrolch.de GETLOFI: www.getlofi.com MECHATRONIC ART: www.mechatronicart.ch www.mechatronicart.ch It's much easier to build as a 555 Osc (Atari Punk Console) Only 2 Inputs and 1 Output. DIY or die!!! PS: Dont really want to use googe/youtube i do it just for you!!! ... cd4093 4093 Nand Synth Cmos Osc Diy Oscillator Noise Destruction Chaos APC 556 555 4017 DIY Hate Google Anti Capitalism ...